What programming Language should I start with?

I figured you were young that is why I suggested learning HTML first because it is easier and much faster to master and you could then apply it by creating your own web page at Xanga or someplace like that and play around with changing how it looks as you learn more about HTML, for which there are several good on-line and interactive tutorials you could study:

http://www.davesite.com/webstation/html/


And I noticed elsewhere you asked about Firefox. It is a slimmed down version of what I use, Mozilla (because Mozilla has an E-mail client), but coded by the same open source community. It is more modern, faster in my experience, and definitely safer because it does not use activeX and is not a part of the operating system.It has a ton of awesome little programs you can add on to it (they call them extensions) like a calendar and a bandwidth tester, for example.
It includes tabbled browsing, a download and a cookie manager, too. Many people are just tired of MS dominating the net and not doing much to improve IE, tired of all those popups (did I mention you don't get popups with FF or Mozilla?) and want something that actually works faster.
Since early November, over seven and a half million people have downloaded FF, and it has been recommended all over the place by many "experts." Use as apparently gone from about 1 percent to more than 7 percent on the web, and at some sites (no doubt like this one) approaches a much larger user base.
Peeps are passionate about it!

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/

Regards,
John

Edited by jgweed, 01 December 2004 - 08:38 AM.

Is it free to download lol or do i have to pay for it?I know html not good as i wish but i know it i was in webmasters for awhile and it got boring because me and my friends upgraded it lol we intoduced StudioMx to them now its better and new ppl join :D






Tj

It is absolutely free, and there is a simple interface to import your IE settings and bookmarks. URLS are provided on the other thread where you ask about FF, so I won't post them here. I think you will really like it if you give it a chance---there are LOTS of add-ons to try.
OK, if you know HTML, then you are ready to progress to a real programming language and if you have the PASCALl book and tools, then go ahead and start playing with it, though in the long run you will save a lot of time and effort just going with C++ ; either one is fun, though, and that is what counts.
Cheers,
John

i would learn C++ but theres alot of math to it i dont think i know yet lol so im gonna start with Pascel if you got an eisear way i can learn C++ ill do that but ive only read the first 6 or 7 pages in Pascel and i already learned alot lol and theres 736pages in the book.





Thanks.Tj

Most of the math is just logic, but glad to see you are beginning, at least, even with Pascal, if that seems more to your liking and you feel more comfortable with it, since you will learn more and learn faster that way. Don't worry about the number of pages because I program languages are architectonic in nature which means each new concept builds on the earlier ones, just as each new command that you add interacts with the ones you already know to either do something new, or do something better, or do something more complex, or do something faster. Once you really get into it, the real fun comes when you have to decide which way to do something out of several choices; if you pick the best way, you are a good programmer. Just remember to write as much code as you can, even when the programs are really simple or you are just copying lines of codes into a compiler and running the programme---that way you get a good "feel" for the language, and typing code becomes natural and you make fewer mistakes that you have to debug at a later date.
Cheers,
John

Yeh im having a bit of trouble understanding the code int he bit language but i mostly know what i need to know like the imput and out put lol i want to learn how to make a password cracker not to steal things just for the noledge but if i wanted to make a program for it the imput would be the name of what u want or something like that lol nvm im still a bit confused im realy ticked off having lost 3years of my life lol . Should i learn Pascel or C++ because i want to learn C++ but im not so good at math

I would go with C++, rather than duplicate effort as I said just depends for now on which seems easiest you at your current level of expertise but I would certainly take some time to check out all the C++ information there is on the web and get recommendations from actual programmers or IT students about which is best for someone who wants to get into the profession (which is used more widely), and if you want to ever get into game environments, Pascal would be worthless. From my own experience and from what programmers that work for me, it's C++ all the way for what you want to do.
Best regards,
John

So if i was to make games and stuff like that C++ is the way to go?






Thanks.Tj

Yep.


http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial.html
A good place to start reading up on the language without buying a book until you are sure you are interested.


C++ is used for modern games because it runs very fast and many programmers know it and there is a large body of secondary applications that support it.

Cheers,
John

Sorry for butting in, didn't want to start another thread when the topic is already being discussed here. Where would a complete novice be advised to start, could he say learn c++ without a prior knowledge of HTML? Or would HTML be a good starting point?Butting out now, and thanks

HTML and C++ are not related at all. HTML is definitely easier to learn, but you wil be restricted to designing static web pages. C++ on the other hand can be used to make anything but is much more complicated

Grinler is quite correct, but if you have NEVER done any sort of programming, HTML is a good place to start, because it is comparatively easier to learn, and will instill mental habits that will be invaluable in learning and using a true programming language. From HTML, you could progress to Visual Basic, and from there to any current language you need.
Regards,
John

On the issue of order of languages to learn, If you are going for C++ and HTML I would suggest that PERL is a useful next or first step. A little bit of it can help a lot if you have a (paid) web site where you can run the scripts, or install it on your machine.

It is very similar to C++ from what I can tell, but it does not need to be compiled. It can be grouchy at times but will do lots of nice things for a web site. This is the route I took, and now I'm trying to decide if I should go with C++ or Java. Many University courses that I cannot afford seem to focus on Java. And I just this morning succeded in compiling my first Java application, after a 40 minute installation and tutorial. That's a lot faster than getting started in C++ which I eventually gave up on last time I tried.
I have decided that I'd like my second career to be in something I love doing, so I'm asking the same questions as in this forum.
I also noticed a lot of spelling mistakes in the previous posts. Thats fine for forum posts but if you program with that level of accuracy you buy yourself a million headaches. I suppose it might be TWO million in C++ just something to keep in mind.

I personaly if I could go back would go straight into (PHP+MYSQL) They are being used more and more over the "www" and there are so many things you can do with them. You could base your entire site around PHP and only know the slightest bit of HTML. The tricky thing is its not that simple .. but if you only want to learn 1 scripting language my advise PHP all the way!!!

It all comes down to what your learning how to program for. To make web apps or standalone apps. web apps = php/mysql standalone apps= c/c++/vb