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Question malware detected in Microsoft Defender


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#1 cloudff7

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Posted 16 October 2025 - 10:32 AM

I used to use Kaspersky Free and Malwarebytes Free, but they never detected these files as malicious in their scans. Now I use Microsoft Defender. In the first full scan, it detected this file: AppData\Roaming\Secure\QtWebKit4.dll (Trojan:Win32/Wacatac.C!ml). I quarantined it and then removed it. A new scan didn't detect anything else. However, there is a file inside a folder, and this folder is inside the DLL folder. The file name is Caller.exe. If I compress this file in a RAR or ZIP file with WinRAR, Defender immediately quarantines it. I'm not sure if these two files are real malware or false positives.

I'll post the link with screenshots of the folders and the Total Virus test:

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/d2251490ca5bd67e63ea52a65bbff8823f2012f417ad0bd073366c02aa0b3828?nocache=1

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/935cd9070679168cfcea6aea40d68294ae5f44c551cee971e69dc32f0d7ce14b?nocache=1

https://ibb.co/NgDy02j5

https://ibb.co/RTTWcxp7

 

this malware acess modify, corrupt, delete my personal PC files?



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Posted 16 October 2025 - 10:40 AM

Trojan:Win32/Wacatac.C!ml detection:

  • Trojan indicates Type of malware...describes what the malware does on your computer.
  • Win32/ indicates Platform...compatible operating system (such as Windows, macOS, Android) for the malware.
  • Wacatacl indicates Family...grouping of malware based on common characteristics.
    letter C indicates Variant...used sequentially for every distinct version of a malware family.
  • !ml indicates !Suffixes...a suffix that begins with ! is an indicator used by Microsoft internally.

The !Suffixes at the end of the Wacatac series of detections indicates these are "machine-learning" (aka  AI detections) by the automated detection systems that pick-up behavioral or other questionable activity occurring on the Windows OS.
 
The first VirusTotal link shows 2 detections as malicious for Bingo Caller.exe. 
The second VirusTotal link shows 38 detections as malicious for QtWebKit4.dll. 
 
The consensus among most experts is that if 90%+ of the results of an online file analysis (e.g. VirusTotal, Jotti's virusscan, MetaDefender, Hybrid-Analysis) indicate a file submission is clean, then you can disregard the other detection(s) as a false positive...especially if the detection is more generic, suspicious, potentially unwanted (PUPs) and/or was made by any of the lesser known security vendors. This is typically due to the security program's heuristic analysis engine which provides the ability to detect possible new variants of malware.
  
Certain embedded files that are part of legitimate programs and specialized fix tools, may at times be detected by some antivirus and anti-malware scanners as suspicious, a Risk Tool, Hacking Tool, Potentially Unwanted Program (PUP), Potentially Unwanted Applications (PUA), a possible threat or even Malware when that is not the case. This occurs for a variety of reasons to include the tool's compiler, the files it uses, whether files are compressed, packed, or obfuscated to protect code, what behavior (routines, scripts) it performs, any registry strings it may contain and the type of security program engine that was used during the scan. Other legitimate files which may be encrypted or password protected in order to conceal itself so they do not allow access for scanning often trigger alerts by anti-virus/security software as well.
 
When flagged by an antivirus or security scanner, it's because the program includes features, behavior or files that appear suspicious or which can potentially be misused by others for nefarious and/or malicious purposes. Compressed and packed files in particular are often flagged as suspicious by antivirus and security software because they have difficulty reading what is inside them. These detections do not necessarily mean the file is malicious or a bad program. It means it has the potential for being misused by others or that it was simply detected as suspicious or a threat due to the security program's heuristic analysis engine which provides the ability to detect possible new variants of malware. Heuristics uses non-specific detection methods to find new or unknown malware which allows the anti-virus to detect and stop if before doing any harm to your system. The disadvantage to using heuristics is that it is not as reliable as signature-based detection (blacklisting) and can potentially increase the chances that a non-malicious program is flagged as suspicious or infected. 
 
Antivirus scanners cannot distinguish between "good" and "malicious" use of such programs, therefore they may incorrectly alert you of malware, block the file's download, automatically remove the file or keep the program from running properly. In these cases the detection of a known legitimate file is a "false positive" and can be ignored.


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Posted 16 October 2025 - 10:46 AM

In my case, what are these two files really? Malware or false positive? And if it is malware, is it one of those that modifies, deletes, or corrupts personal files on the PC? I don't have much knowledge, but I'm learning about malware with your help.

 

And why did Kaspersky Free, Malwarebytes Free, and AdwCleaner Free never detect and remove these files in their scans? Did they remain maliciously active?


Edited by cloudff7, 16 October 2025 - 10:48 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2025 - 01:21 PM

What is qtwebkit4.dll
What is Caller.exe
 
Discrepancies in anti-virus detections can occur for a variety of reasons. Every security vendor's lab uses different scanning engines and different detection methods. Each has its own strengths and weaknesses and they often use a mix of technologies to detect and remove malware. Scanning engines may use Heuristic AnalysisBehavior-based Analysis, AnalysisSandboxing and Signature file detection (containing the binary patterns of known virus signatures) which can account for discrepancies in scanning outcomes.

Depending on how often the anti-virus or anti-malware database is updated can also account for differences in threat detections. Further, each vendor has its own definition (naming standards) of what constitutes malware and scanning your computer using different criteria will yield different results. The fact that each program has its own definition files means that some malware may be picked up by one that could be missed by another.

Also see my comments in this topic (Post #18).


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Posted 16 October 2025 - 01:25 PM

My file is not Caller64.exe, my file is Caller.exe

I am confused by all the information, tests and images that I posted. I don't know if they are malware and the damage they caused to personal files on my PC.



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Posted 16 October 2025 - 01:34 PM

64-bit vs 32-bit: What’s the Difference? 
 
If you want a more comprehensive look at your system by our experts for possible malware infection, checking for possible hacking or just need a second opinion, there are advanced tools which can be used to investigate but they are not permitted in this forum. Please follow the instructions in the Malware Removal and Log Section Preparation Guide. When you have done that, start a new topic and post your FRST logs in the Virus, Trojan, Spyware, and Malware Removal Logs Forum, NOT here, for assistance by the Malware Response Team. 
 
If you choose to follow the above instructions, please reply back in this thread with a link to the new topic.
 
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Posted 16 October 2025 - 01:35 PM

I created the topic but they locked it and I didn't get any analysis of my log FRST


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Posted 16 October 2025 - 01:45 PM

You posted your logs here and were assisted by Oh My!, an expert with our Malware Response Team and Instructor. Oh My! gave you a response and the topic was closed since you did not reply to his last posting.

You have asked the same question regarding AppData\Roaming\secure\QtWebKit4.dll (Trojan:Win32/Wacatac.C!ml) on other forums. 
 
I am not willing to assist if other forums are assisting on the same operating system, whether the issues are the same or not. This is a standard approach when a potential malware issue is in play.
 
I think it is best to close this topic until you are completely finished with the other forums. If/when your are able to engage with this topic alone, I will re-open the topic and we will continue on.

Oh My! said he would re-open that topic when you are finished at the other forums.

 

I suggest you do as he has instructed, then return and ask to re-open that topic.


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Posted 16 October 2025 - 01:47 PM

I already asked him to open it but he didn't pay attention to me, due to the delay I looked for other forums but I would like an expert's answer



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Posted 16 October 2025 - 01:50 PM

Did you finish and close your topics at the other forums and tell him that you did so?


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Posted 16 October 2025 - 01:51 PM

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Posted 16 October 2025 - 01:54 PM

I have re-opened that topic but it will be Oh My!'s decision to choose whether or not to continue.


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Posted 16 October 2025 - 01:56 PM

Thank you, there are other topics that I created by mistake, sorry, can you remove them? Keep only the topic where I posted the logs



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Posted 16 October 2025 - 02:01 PM

Those other topics have been deleted.

 

From this point on the Malware Response Team should be the only members that you take advice from, until they have verified your system is clean.
 
To avoid confusion, I am closing this topic. 
 
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